Smash Ulti Never Ask Me for Anything Ever Again

Chrono.

So question: What's the general consensus on the likelihood that assist trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
There'due south no denying Sakurai'south a madman on some level or some other.

Low merely nothing's impossible, I judge.

amazonevan19

So question: What's the full general consensus on the likelihood that assist trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
There'southward no denying Sakurai'southward a madman on some level or some other.

like, current assist trophies in blast ultimate? Extraordinarily unlikely from a development perspective, but Sakurai is a madman lol.

Deleted member

So question: What's the full general consensus on the likelihood that assist trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
There's no denying Sakurai's a madman on some level or another.

There's cypher that says it tin can't happen, but there isn't anything that says information technology can happen either. It would definitely exist a first, and not something we could really predict.

If information technology eventually gets me Waluigi and Bomber Man then I'm fine with the thought.

Llort A. Ton

Then question: What's the general consensus on the likelihood that assist trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
In that location's no denying Sakurai'south a madman on some level or another.

Because the massive feedback on Waluigi from E3, I think it could realistically happen. Not just whatsoever AT would be playable (Klaptrap for Smash?) But I can meet Waluigi and ane of his AT friends being surprise DLC afterward on.

KingofKoopas

So question: What'south the general consensus on the likelihood that assist trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
There's no denying Sakurai's a madman on some level or another.

A friend of mine and I talked virtually how close to an actual playable Character Alucard seems and how crawly it'd be if they made information technology happen as dlc. Literally if y'all come across how much his AT does it would only take mapping a few things and changing some code.

Polan

It's either base roster or bust for characters like Isaac or Skull Kid. They wouldn't waste DLC development on niche characters like them

What youjust said was so foolish, i had to log in and reply.Isaac and Skull Kid are definitely pop enough for DLC. Its characters like Elma, Decidueye or super obscure choices like Lip that accept to be on the base roster since they will competing with other more popular and relevant characters from their ain series.

Omega Tyrant · Sep 27, 2018

If Steve is playable in Smash, that might explain why Isabelle does non take a Public Piece of work Projects play-style.

Or because the whole "Public Work Projects" moveset idea was awful and a textbook example of people stretching too difficult regardless of actual functionality and cohesiveness in Smash itself to "prove" a grapheme's "unique moveset potential". I'm certainly glad Isabelle got in as a conventional semi-clone and didn't go an birdbrained gimmick slapped onto her.

Fane

Nosotros don't know if this DLC is going to be ballot focused either. It'southward likely that information technology'southward going to be only there is always the possibility that election being a whole different ball game. I'1000 merely saying trusting the DLC to fill the holes in people's ideal rosters might end bad, like the terminal time.

Truthful. Information technology'd be really odd if they didn't though.

And so far, the only actual Ballot placers I see on the roster that probable fabricated it to the elevation spots were Ridley, 1000. Rool, Inklings, and possibly Simon Belmont. Chrom/Night Samus were just popular all effectually. Chrom thanks to Gematsu, and Dark Samus due to well... lack of Metroid rep and Ridley 'too big' meme. Daisy, I guess? I don't know, I don't call back she was among the height placers or even close to that.

Flyboy

So question: What'south the full general consensus on the likelihood that aid trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
In that location's no denying Sakurai'due south a madman on some level or another.

I have a super weird feeling that nosotros are going to get some kind of effect or mode where some assist trophies tin can be playable with limited movesets a la the Fighting Polygon Team or Fighting Wireframes in Smashes past cheers to hacking.

Only actually I can definitely see at to the lowest degree a few beingness converted into actual DLC. They have the models already. It just makes sense.

tveye

The trademark means nada. Otherwise, we would have had a new F-Cipher and Eternal Darkness game by now.
The Mask is iconic. Skull Child himself? Not so much.

Isaac is just super popular among early xx somethings who accept nostalgia for Golden Sun.

The newer characters would absolutely brand more than the ones you mentioned, bar Peradventure Geno.

And Skull Kid was nowhere near equally requested every bit K. Rool or Ridley, at least not until Loz18 ran his mouth like a moron.

What is your deal? From my interpretation, yous're trying to imply that Nintendo is some greedy company all about making money and nothing else.

Let me put something into perspective for y'all: Aureate Dominicus has been around since 2001. That's 17 years of people having the opportunity to play a game. The GBA is too one of the easiest consoles to emulate and I know quite a few people whose first introduction to the series was from emulation. In fact, the "Isaac for Nail" thread on this very lath has younger gamers who kickoff played the games on the Wii U.

So 17 years of people having the run a risk to play a game increases the exposure of that game quite a bit. Y'all'd be a fool to think more than people have played something like ARMS over Gilded Dominicus.

TheCJBrine

So question: What'south the general consensus on the likelihood that assistance trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
In that location's no denying Sakurai's a madman on some level or some other.

Sakurai: *encounter's "Waluigi isn't in Smash" hit the news*

"Alright, fine, you want Waluigi? Here, accept him! Never ask me for anything always again!"

amazonevan19

What is your bargain? From my estimation, you're trying to imply that Nintendo is some greedy company all about making money and null else.
Let me put something into perspective for you: Golden Sunday has been effectually since 2001. That's 17 years of people having the opportunity to play a game. The GBA is also one of the easiest consoles to emulate and I know quite a few people whose offset introduction to the series was from emulation. In fact, the "Isaac for Smash" thread on this very board has younger gamers who first played the games on the Wii U.

Then 17 years of people having the chance to play a game increases the exposure of that game quite a bit. You'd exist a fool to think more people have played something like ARMS over Golden Sun.

ik vgchartz is **** only

ARMS: one.77 1000000
Gilt Sun: 1.76 meg

:thinking: arms has sold about the same in a little over a year than Gold Sun has sold in 17 years

Nekoo

Dude, who from Square DON'T yous want?
Like seriously, you're so all over the place betwixt Sora, Neku, Geno, and Chrono. Obviously I'd also exist across excited for any of them, but you need to pick a number 1 already lol.

My number one is called Square-Enix Rep thanks god Vergeben leaked information technology. :yeahboi:

No just seriously, I'm across excited for whatsoever Square Characters, Like they have tons of characters that would exist more welcome for smash, but my number 1 would be Sora but Shhh... The "Disney Keychain" regular army are coming.

Untouch

So question: What'southward the general consensus on the likelihood that help trophies could become playable characters through DLC?
In that location'south no denying Sakurai's a madman on some level or some other.

Very very very unlikey.
They wouldn't remove ATs from the game.
If they did, how would online work if you dont have that character purchased?

ThatOneAnon · Sep 27, 2018

It'south times like this when I legitimately wish 'Never ask me for annihilation again.' was a existent Sakurai quote we could frame and hang on a wall, just like
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"Take you ever made a game?" is Sakurai's "my body is fix"

Very very very unlikey.
They wouldn't remove ATs from the game.
If they did, how would online work if you dont have that character purchased?

Easy solution. Simply take the AT version of the graphic symbol have a random colour pallette different from the one you have selected.

KingofKoopas · Sep 27, 2018

Very very very unlikey.
They wouldn't remove ATs from the game.
If they did, how would online piece of work if y'all dont have that grapheme purchased?

Well i would assume the aid trophy graphic symbol would be patched out for anybody regardless of if you bought the DLC or not, and having new AT'due south patched in would besides be a dainty thing to make full in spots if one-time ones go DLC characters. Probably i from the same series who can do the same thing or something similar. For Example, if Brawl had DLC and Little Mac became playable then his AT woulda been replaced with Glass Joe... actually make that Von Kaiser. Joe is kind of pathetic.

Robertman2

Very very very unlikey.
They wouldn't remove ATs from the game.
If they did, how would online work if yous dont have that character purchased?

Playable Waluigi can summon AT Waluigi

Eru13

Very very very unlikey.
They wouldn't remove ATs from the game.
If they did, how would online work if y'all dont accept that graphic symbol purchased?

add together to this that if they didn't remove the AT, having a graphic symbol and an AT of the same character at the aforementioned time would cause confusion

Every bit much as I'd like Bomberman to be in, anything that's confirmed an AT won't be playable, let'south hope for the next blast

MasterOfKnees · Sep 27, 2018

They're simply going to remove the AT if it's decided it'd be meliorate off being playable, nobody will miss it if it means that particular characters is playable instead.

With that said, the only AT with a decent chance for DLC is Waluigi considering of all the noise his deconfirmation made, if it doesn't happen I feel like it'll have more to do with Sakurai not fancying having any of the ATs being playable rather than him limiting himself.

ThatOneAnon

add together to this that if they didn't remove the AT, having a character and an AT of the same character at the same time would cause defoliation
As much as I'd similar Bomberman to exist in, anything that's confirmed an AT won't be playable, let's hope for the next nail

In one case again, just have the AT be a different color. Nail, problem solved.

amazonevan19

As much as I wanted to believe that Shadow had a shot in smash 4 via the smash ballot, I knew that his beingness an AT basically deconfirmed him 100%...only I as well knew supporting him was crucial for his chances in the side by side smash installment.

Until and unless Sakurai ever breaks the AT "dominion," I retrieve it is extremely reasonable to conclude that ATs are his fashion of recognizing characters that he doesn't feel should exist fighters...Just they could very well be included in the adjacent game.

KingofKoopas

Following up on this ASsist trophy discussion, what if somehow the Mega Man Null incarnation of Zero became playable at least as DLC, and the Mega Human being X version of Zippo remained as an Assistance Bays?

osby

In one case once again, just accept the AT be a different color. Boom, problem solved.

viii player Boom is a thing.

Deleted member

"Take you lot ever made a game?" is Sakurai's "my body is ready"

Sakurai's "Have y'all ever made a game?" is seriously one of my nearly favorite quotes e'er. It was such a good response to the snarky question he was asked, lol.

In all seriousness near the SE rep, I'm pretty much good with anyone. Sora, Noctis, Geno; they all sound fun, then I'm not too invested which one makes it in over the other.

ThatOneAnon

8 player Smash is a thing.

And? They could e'er accept more than 8 alternate colors, and this isn't even taking into consideration alternating costumes.

Momotsuki

I mean, regarding Assist Trophies being promoted via DLC... they could have it so that an Assistance Bays will never summon the promoted fighter if said fighter is present equally such.

staindgrey

That depends on whether you count Groose as a villain.

Even and so, I'd argue more people enjoyed Majora's Mask than Skyward Sword.

Angelglory · Sep 27, 2018

Think how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Smash? He besides said a female Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.

Look what just popped up.

ThatOneAnon

Recall how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Smash? He also said a female Skullomania was gonna exist in that SNK fanservice game.
Expect what just popped up.

SKULLOMANIA FOR SMASH!!!

WertQuadNine

Recollect how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Boom? He also said a female person Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.
Look what just popped up.

........ uh oh

Fatmanonice

Considering the massive feedback on Waluigi from E3, I think it could realistically happen. Not but whatsoever AT would exist playable (Klaptrap for Smash?) But I can see Waluigi and 1 of his AT friends being surprise DLC afterwards on.

I'd argue that Waluigi has no urgency though. People love him and he's not going away anytime soon. This game isn't a make or interruption game for him unless Sakurai outright comes out and says that this is the final Blast game. I feel the same style about Ashley and Bandana Dee besides: all three have a future ahead of them regardless of Smash.

T3Z3R1

Recollect how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Smash? He as well said a female Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.
Wait what but popped up.

Oh great. Looks like he was right about information technology, that just proves his brownie further. And I tin experience that steve in smash is growing very possible every day.

Hydrualic Hydra

Remember how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Nail? He also said a female person Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.
Expect what only popped up.

Steve giga-confirmed, pack it upwards. (semi-sarcasm)

Damn, commencement Terry, so the entire Mario bandage, and now Skullomania. When will the Rule 63 end?

Dcas

It's either base roster or bust for characters similar Isaac or Skull Child. They wouldn't waste DLC development on niche characters like them

This 100%. DLC characters, in boom iv all were super well known, except Lucas. As much as a i dislike Iron, corrin very known within the community, Not even to mention mewtwo, deject or bayonetta.

If we dont get the niche such as isaac, geno, etc in base roster i would say their chances are almost cypher to join equally dlc.

tveye

ik vgchartz is **** but
Arms: 1.77 million
Gold Lord's day: ane.76 one thousand thousand

:thinking: arms has sold about the same in a little over a yr than Golden Sun has sold in 17 years

Gilt Dominicus is as well more than ane game. I bought The Lost Age new when information technology came out and bought the first one used.
The signal of my mail service though was that sales don't affair, userbase does. More than people take played a Aureate Sun game in the last 17 years than people have played Xenoblade 2 or Arms or what have y'all.

Deleted member

Remember how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Boom? He too said a female Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.
Look what simply popped upwardly.

Interesting. This paired with Verge's backing makes information technology a fleck more interesting, but having sources on a SNK game doesn't necessarily mean he has sources on Smash. I'm still gonna tread carefully with this one.

osby

I'd argue that Waluigi has no urgency though. People love him and he's not going away someday soon. This game isn't a make or interruption game for him unless Sakurai outright comes out and says that this is the final Smash game. I feel the same way near Ashley and Bandana Dee also: all iii have a future alee of them regardless of Smash.

Not that I want Waluigi is "no urgency" really a affair? We got Isabelle and she'south apparently going to stay relevant for awhile. And then again, we got Thou.Rool, non Dixie but that was more to do with popularity.

TheCJBrine

Remember how that Senjougahara guy said Steve was gonna be in Smash? He also said a female Skullomania was gonna be in that SNK fanservice game.
Look what just popped upwards.

To exist fair, it'south probable his sources for Boom are unlike than his sources for other games, similar Vergeben'south, I think.

But I don't care; STEVE HYPE!!!ane!1!11

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